1. Warming up with a crash course on Hamlet
- Read "Hamlet in a nutshell"
- In your journal or in your ELIC Google folder, spend some time listing possible parallels (strong similarities) between the play Hamlet and Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. In particular, what conflicts do Oskar and Hamlet share?
- Read/act out Act 5, scene 1 from Hamlet using No Fear Shakespeare (pages 8 and 9).
- What's Hamlet struggling with in this scene?
- How might Hamlet's struggle relate to Oskar's struggles?
3. Enjoying Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close Discussion #3: Pages 142-173
4. Wrapping up with takeaways/reflections
HW:
1. For TOMORROW: Bring a personal artifact to class with you--an object that holds special meaning to you.
2. For Thursday: Read pages 174-207 in Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close; complete your journal entry.
If you miss a Fishbowl or Socratic, you must make it up. Fishbowl: Read over the syllabus and blog comments, then add an extended comment to the class blog. Socratic: Read over the syllabus and the class notes, then add an extended comment to the class blog.
2. For Thursday: Read pages 174-207 in Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close; complete your journal entry.
If you miss a Fishbowl or Socratic, you must make it up. Fishbowl: Read over the syllabus and blog comments, then add an extended comment to the class blog. Socratic: Read over the syllabus and the class notes, then add an extended comment to the class blog.
On page 143 some of the Blacks have showed up to Oskar's play, why would the come?
ReplyDeleteDo you agree with the statement Mr. Black made: "It's not a horrible world...but it's filled with a lot of horrible people."
ReplyDeleteI agree with this statement because overall the world is a beautiful place and there are some troubled souls that ruin it for everyone else.
DeleteFor example, Osama Bin Laden got people to fly planes into the twin towers during a pretty day in New York
DeleteI agree with them statement because the world is driven by people's ambitious. People start wars due to their desire for power which makes it a horrible world.
DeleteI would have to agree with Mr. Black's comment because its true. The Earth does nothing but provide us with what we need to survive. It keeps us warm, and makes us happy. The people in it though, they are the horrible ones.
DeleteI agree with Cole, the world itself can never be horrible, cruel yes, but never horrible. I see the human race as a parasite, sure there are some people who try to do right by nature and to other people but there are many others who don't even bother to try. Humans are single handedly responsible for the destruction of the world and most people don't care.
DeleteI do agree with Mr.Black's comment because as beautiful as the world is bad things still happen and most of the time some terrible people are behind it.
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ReplyDeleteOn pages 166 and 167 there are pictures of birds, why would they be significant?
ReplyDeleteI would say that the author put these photos in the book because birds are simple. They can just pack up and fly away from their problems. Oskar though, he is stuck on the ground, running all around New York looking for a lock that his key goes with.
DeleteIt relates to the picture of the falling man to me. In both pictures it resembles a sense of flying and peaceful feelings. They maybe put the birds in there to release some tension in the chapter.
DeleteDoes Oskar blame himself or his mother more for the death of his father. I can see both sides of the situation. Oskar feeling he guilt of seeing the last voicemails Thomas sent to the home phone. And now seeing how Oskars mom is seeing another man he probably feels more hurt. Like shes trying to cover up what happened even though she's trying to move on with life. There is a mixture of both.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if Oskar necessarily feels like someone is to blame for his father's death. He just is confused and hurt and flustered and he misses his dad a lot. I think he takes that anger and hurt out on his mom even though he doesn't mean too.
DeleteI think it's important that the sound of birds flapping their wings is the first sound that Abe Black has heard in many, many years (and it makes him cry). Can you make any connections between this moment/this image and the Falling Man?
ReplyDeleteOn page 159, it said, "But still, it gave me heavy, heavy boots." What is Oskar referring to and why does it make him feel like that?
ReplyDeleteRight after this line Oskar keeps on talking about Thomas. Heavy boots resembling the heaviness of the grief and guilt Oskar has gone through and has to continue for the rest of his life.
DeleteI feel like everything going on in his life is causing him to not be able to walk. Not just this select moment, but his whole world is crashing down, his mom is already moving on, he has more questions he could ever ask, he is turning into a completely different person. He is starting to lie, he is hurting himself more. So yeah, everything is weighing down on him right now.
DeleteI agree. I think he's been searching so hard for his dad, and for a moment, he really thinks that Abe Black will have an index card for his dad. But he doesn't, which makes Oskar feel even more alone.
DeleteI agree with Samantha, Oskar is talking about a very heavy subject for him so he's sad or has "heavy, heavy boots."
DeleteI would describe Oskar as energetic because he is always curious and he wont take any losses. When Oskar is faced with a problem, he will not let anything else distract him.
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DeleteHow has the death of Oskars dad affect the relationship between Oskar and his Mom
ReplyDeleteOskar and his mom's relationship worsen. On page 171, Oskar said "If I could have chosen, I would have chosen you!" Oskar wanted his dad to survive to replace his mom.
DeleteThe death of Oskar's dad has affected him and his mom's relationship. Oskar doesn't like that his mom has "moved on". There is also more anger and hurtful things said between them.
DeleteI think the death of Oskar's dad pulled him and his mother closer because they had no one else to turn to. Also, Oskar and his mother both suffered from the same traumatic event, so they could cope together.
DeleteRyan Rundell
DeleteOskar's dad's death has caused some strain on their relationship. I agree with Ryan that the death has brought then closer, but I also feel like it has caused Oskar to feel anger towards his mom for having a relationship with Ron, and he feels like his mom doesn't miss his dad as much as he does and that hurts/worries him.
DeleteI think Oskar's dad was the glue that brought together Osker and his mom. Now, without Oskar's dad, Oskaer and him mom can't really connect.
DeleteWhy do you think Jonathan Safran Foer included that very graphic sence of Oskar beating Jimmy Snyder with the skull on page 146?
ReplyDeleteI think it's to show how his mental stability is deteriorating.
DeleteI think he's trying to show that Osker is bottling up all his feelings and they are getting worse.
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ReplyDeleteHow does the title, "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close" relate to what we have read so far?
ReplyDeleteI've noticed that Oskar uses the phrases "extremely" and "incredibly" frequently throughout the book, though he hasn't said the title word-for-word yet. These adjectives suggest an extreme amount of something...how is Oskar in an extreme state of mind?
DeleteOskar described a flock of birds blew by the window as "extremely fast and incredibly close". I think it means how things goes by so fast (his dad suddenly passed away). Incredibly close like how the truth is so close to Oskar.
DeleteWhen Oskar thought he beat the kids head in, I think he was letting his emotions come out, which he never does. In the book, Oskar never gets angry or is sensitive to his emotions.
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DeleteHow and why is Oskar's mental state deteriorating?
ReplyDeleteI think Oskar is starting to struggle mentally because he has discovered something about his dad and it is bringing something out of him that wants to avenge his father in some way. Ryan Rundell
DeleteWhy doesn't Oskar wanted to get buried after he died?
ReplyDeleteI think he doesn't want to be stagnant after he dies. Being buried you just stay in one place for however long it takes for you body to decompose.
DeleteI think that it's his way of connection to the falling man because he believe it's his dad,and he(oskar) wants his final resting place to be as free as he thinks his dad's last moments were.
DeleteWhat do you think is causing this 9-year old question why he's alive? Do yo think this is foreshadowing anything?
ReplyDeleteAs a 9 year old, he has lived through a lot of trauma already and he obviously is very independent and driven to find answers. I think he feels like he is alone on this journey because his mom has already moved on. And he is experiencing all of this, instead of just being a kid.
DeleteI think this trauma of having his dad die in a terroist attack has made oskar grow up to fast and had him realize what life really is.
DeleteDoes Oskar hold resentment or even hatred towards his mother?
ReplyDeleteI believe so, he's having to go through all these changes and he doesn't want. Seeing his mom with a new guy is not what he wants to see even if its years after the event. Oskar also being the only one whos heard the voicemails from his dad is making him carry lots of baggage around and has to make it seem like hes okay. (Maybe can relate to the chapter title heavier boots). Especially not opening up about it can make him even more mad that she isn't 'trying' to help.
DeleteI agree with Samantha that he feels resentment and is carrying around baggage. I'm not sure if he really feels this resentment towards his mother, or just towards the entire situation in general. I think he just wishes it had never happened and he is just confused and lost. Even though his father's death has caused some problems with Oskar's and his mother's relationship, he still loves her and they are still there for each other.
DeleteI don't think he does, I think that because he has this disability he is unaware or has a really hard time understanding how people feel and why they do certain things.
DeleteOn pg 159 Oskar talks about his dad "Dad wasn't a Great Man, not like Winston Churchill, whoever he was. Dad was just someone who ran a family jewelry business. Just an ordinary dad." Seeing that Oskar was so close to his dad, how would Oskar describe his mom?
ReplyDeleteOskar's not sugar coating things his dad is just an ordinary person, he wasn't an important political figure like Winston Churchill.
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DeleteBuilding off Joanna's question and Dakota's comments, how is Abe Black helping Oskar face some of his fears?
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