Tuesday, December 3, 2019

ELIC Fishbowl #5: December 3, 2019

Focus: What is overwhelming the narrators in EL&IC, and what steps can they take towards happiness?

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1. Warming up with a Zorro training clip and an overview of "The Zorro Circle"

2. Applying the Zorro Circle to yourself and to the three narrators from EL&IC
3. Enjoying ELIC Fishbowl #5: Pages 207-259

HW:
1. For THURSDAY: Read through page 306 in EL&IC and complete your 6th journal entry. After this, there's only one more reading assignment to go!

2. HEADS UP: All make-up work, including fishbowl blogs, notebooks, essay revisions, and any other graded assignments from the past 12 weeks must be submitted no later than Wednesday, December 11. After this date, I will not be able to accept any previous work from the semester.

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  1. Zorro circle ideas for Oskar? What does he have control over (even if he's not aware of it?)

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    1. I think he starts to take control over the key and the word Black, he is trying to find out what it for. So he doesn't have control over but hes trying to.

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    2. He has control over his imagination toward his dad's death. He can stop thinking about how his dad died

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    3. Oskar has control over who he tells about his adventure and all the things that are weighing him down.

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    4. I know if you asked oskar to write down everything stressing him out in his life, that he would give you over a million reasons, but there is one thing he can control. Throughout his journey to find what his dad has left him, he meets many great people who can help him talk through the emotions he is feeling.

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  2. On page 216 the grandfather says "I'm so afraid of losing something I love I refuse to love anything" How do you think connects to the rest of the book?

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    1. I think he means the loss of Anna and his unborn Child. And now he thinks if he loves someone again he will them.

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    2. I think because he has already lost someone he has loved (Anna) which might be the reason he left the grandmother and Thomas in the first place because he didn't want to lose them over something stupid he might have done. The fact that it has happened once to him he knows it might happen again, which also might be the reason why Oskars Grandma hasnt told Oskar that the renter is his grandfather.

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  3. On page 256, Oskar talks about how he wants an answer to how his dad died so that he can stop inventing scenarios of how his dad died. Do you think that Oskar hopes to find the answer for more than that 1 reason? Maybe he hopes his dad died peacefully, or maybe not? What do you guys think?

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    1. I think Oskar might want his Dad to have died sort of as a hero or just not giving up so easy and fighting for his life as much as he could. Every Child thinks of their parents as hero's and maybe thinking his dad died like one it might put him at ease.

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    2. I think Oskar wants to know everything, and he can't really handle the fact that he doesn't know. But I also think he wants to know that he wasn't suffering.

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    3. There's just some peace that comes with knowing how someone died. Maybe Oskar wants to know how his dad died because it will bring him the peace that he wants.

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  4. Do you think the reason why the Grandfather didn't want any children is because he lost one, and it would just remind him of Anna?

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    1. Do you think "to my unborn child" is to Thomas (Oskar's father) or to the baby Anna was pregnant with when she died?

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    2. I think it is for Thomas and he tries to explain why he left. I feel like the Grandfather still loved his unborn child even if he left, but he just couldn't handle to have a child after loosing one.

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    3. Also on page 216 he writes:"I love you, your father." So for me that shows that he never not loved Thomas and it ws just too much for him maybe

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  5. Do you think that Oskar wants to discover how his father died because it is a challenge for him or because he needs to know?

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    2. I feel like for him, it is that thing that is on your mind 24/7 and it slowly tears you apart. The type of thing that can keep you up at night because you don't have closure.

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    3. I think he is determined on figuring out how his father died and because it is a challenge because his dad left him with this big scavenger hunt and I think Oskar feels like he needs to figure out what his dad was hiding.

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  6. Why do you think that in page 216 "I love you, Your father" is circle? Do you think Oskar father forgive his father? Do you think Oskar father knew that his father was the renter?

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    1. I think that Thomas maybe understood the Grandfather more after reading those letters, but I am not sure if he forgave him. I think Thomas was already dead after the Grandfather came back.

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    2. oh that true, I didn't remember that last part

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  7. what will oskar be filling inside his dad's coffin

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    1. Really good question...why dig up an empty coffin? What is he looking to resolve?

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  8. On page 259, the last sentence said that, "What about digging up dad's empty coffin." Why do you think Oskar wanted to do that?

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    1. I think Oakar wants to dig up his dad's coffin because he believed that there is something in there for him. Maybe the item the key unlocks

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    2. I feel like Oskar knew that his dad's body wasn't in the casket, yet he still wanted to make sure there wasn't a burnt body in the casket.

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    3. Oskar is just looking for anything he can to make himself feel better and maybe he was thinking he would see the coffin and know its empty and that his dad might still be out there.

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  9. DId Oskar's Grandfather keep his identity as the renter for oskar to find or to hide from him?

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    1. Oskar's grandfather keep his identity as the renter for Oskar because he doesn't want Oskar to know who he is. Maybe he wasn't allowed to tell him his identity. When the grandfather talked to Oskar, he tells Oskar not to talk about their conversation to the grandmother.

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    2. I think Oskar's grandfather kept his identity as the renter to try and get Oskar to find him because if he would really not want Oskar to find him he would have been long gone but he stayed always looking out for him.

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  10. I noticed that the author often brings the letter from Stephen Hawkins to Oskar up, why do you think he does that?

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    1. I think Oskar admires Stephen Hawkins due to his knowledge in the scientific field and Oskar enjoys that subject.

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  11. will he ever fix his relationship with his mom

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  12. Why do you think they came up with the 6th borough, does it symbolize something?

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  13. is oskar wanting to find out how his dad died how he deals with the loss of his father

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  14. does the grandpa have regrets with him not being in his life

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  15. Oskar behaves in a very different way than most 12 year old children do. Does the author accurately portray the way 12 year olds behave or does the writing style sound more like a grown man?

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  16. Why does Oskar deal with his trauma in strange ways? What are other ways he could've coped and how will his trauma be resolved?

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  17. Why would Oskar dig up a coffin even though his fathers body was never found? -Cole

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  18. What is the connection that Oskar has with Stephen Hawking? Why does he continually mention him?

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  19. Do you think Oskar, Oskars father (pre deceased), and Oskars mother know about the grandfather being the renter?

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